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Dream of downtown 2nd Avenue subway once again denied


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Published Apr 12, 2024


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The MTA has for more than 70 years promised New Yorkers a Second Avenue subway in Downtown Manhattan — but that dream has once again been put on the backburner.

The agency, in a report published last year, said an extension of the line from East 63rd Street to Houston Street wasn’t a priority. The MTA is already working to extend the line north from East 96th Street to 125th Street and Lexington Avenue — but now says extending the line farther west into Harlem is a better idea than building a new downtown line.

Officials estimated the downtown extension featuring six new stations would cost $13.5 billion to construct and serve 230,400 daily riders.

Extending the line across Harlem to Broadway from Lexington Avenue and 125th Street — where the Second Avenue subway will terminate once its next phase is completed — would cost $7.5 billion and serve 239,7000 daily riders, officials said.

The estimates are laid out in the MTA’s 20-year needs assessment, a semi-decennial tome that prioritizes infrastructure repairs and grades the feasibility of expansion projects.

Gov. Kathy Hochul earlier this year put her support behind the uptown extension over the downtown one.

Dashing the dreams of a downtown subway along Second Avenue is a tale as old as the MTA.

When the agency was formed in 1968, consolidating the city’s disparate transportation authorities, officials promised the Second Avenue subway would run along Manhattan’s East Side. The line was to run from the Battery up to East Harlem and, eventually, into the Bronx.

The plan had been discussed for decades, but inaugural MTA Chair William Ronan declared the line would be a centerpiece of his master transit plan that aimed to make up for “30 years of do-nothingness.”

But a group of lawmakers led by then-Rep. Ed Koch decried the downtown route as one that would be too far away from those who lived in Manhattan’s East Side bulge. The city Board of Estimate in June 1969 tabled approval of the route, and the following month approved an alternate line that would loop around Avenue A before extending down to the Battery.

Construction broke ground on that alternate line within two years, but was quickly halted during the city’s financial crisis of the mid-1970s.

By the time the MTA came back to the Second Avenue Subway in the 2000s, it began by building three stops on the Upper East Side — and promised that, one day, it would run downtown.

For now, that day is not in sight.

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