Gothamist

A non-profit newsroom, powered by WNYC.

Gothamist

WNYC Listen Live

Donate

 

 

News

Historians Think the City Seal is Misleading


By

Jen Chung

Published Jul 14, 2008

Modified Jul 14, 2008


Share

FacebookTwitterRedditEmail


Never miss a story

 Email address

By submitting your information, you're agreeing to receive communications from New York Public Radio in accordance with our Terms .


By

Jen Chung

Published Jul 14, 2008

Modified Jul 14, 2008


Share

FacebookTwitterRedditEmail


We rely on your support to make local news available to all

Make your contribution now and help Gothamist thrive in 2026. Donate today

Gothamist is funded by sponsors and member donations

2008_07_seal.jpgForget Sinister the Indian or windmill sails on the city seal: What has historians in a tizzy the seal's date of 1625. They tell the NY Times the date has "hardly any historical significance."

The Times explains that in 1974, the City Council wanted to diminish the fact British settlers first came to the land that would be the Big Apple. As for what date a revised seal should show, there are different opinions.

Manhattan borough historian Michael Miscino said, "It is simply wrong. The first founding settlers of New York City landed here in 1624.” Charles T. Gehring adds, “If you want to talk about New York City and not Manhattan, then 1624 would be a good date. If you want to put the actual date when it was purchased, when Peter Minuit made the deal, that was 1626.” And Kenneth T. Jackson thinks 1624 is the correct date to use.

On the other side, authors Russell Shorto and Edwin Burrows both think 1653--when New Amsterdam was formally chartered--would be better. Interesting, in the Green Book's Chronology of Important New York City Dates, the important event that occurred in 1653 was how the city's first tavern became the first city hall! (Per Green Book, in 1625, "Town of Nieuw Amsterdam becomes seat of government for Nieuw Netherlands.")

Tagged

city seal

NYC founding

nyc history


Jen Chung

Jen Chung is a former WNYC and Gothamist editor.

Read more

Gothamist is funded by sponsors and member donations


Gothamist is funded by sponsors and member donations


MORE news

Man shot and killed on Midtown subway platform Saturday afternoon, NYPD says

Police said they're searching for a person of interest.

By

Ryan Kost

and

Elizabeth Kim

Published Oct 17, 2026 at 1:16 p.m. ET

Modified Oct 17, 2026 at 4:10 p.m. ET


Have you seen this Yorkie? NYPD looking for adorable pup dognapped from her Queens home

Suspects were driving a Subaru Forester, police said.

By

Ryan Kost

News

Have you seen this Yorkie? NYPD looking for adorable pup dognapped from her Queens home

Suspects were driving a Subaru Forester, police said.

By

Ryan Kost


Being reigning champions is weird for Knicks fans, but we could get used to this.

By

Catalina Gonella

Tompkins Square Park is getting a makeover. Some say it's too much.

By

Willow Higgins

Deer are all over New Jersey roads looking for sex, state officials warn

By

Rosemary Misdary


Never miss a story

Catch up on the most important headlines with a roundup of essential NYC stories, delivered to your inbox daily.

Sign upEmail address

By submitting your information, you're agreeing to receive communications from New York Public Radio in accordance with our Terms .